This page is an attempt to document the conversation about
SLOs currently underway at MPC.
Fred,
Oh great, now I feel guilty. The irony of this
exchange is that you put so much effort into this, and one of the points of
my rant is that someone of your talents should be spending time on something
more productive.
Fred:
First, where does the SLO movement come from and why is our accrediting
agency requiring us to write them for our courses, programs, and
institution?
Mark: I don’t care where it came from…just
please make it go away.
Fred:
Second, what does our accrediting agency really want and what value do we
see in this?
Our SLO Articulation
Committee, as well as our president Doug Garrison, has taken the stance that
the most important thing is the dialog. One characteristic of a vibrant
academic institution is faculty members talking to each other about
teaching.
Mark: Fine…let’s just talk
about something productive, which SLOs can’t possibly be. Because of their
ephemeral nature, the discussion of SLOs just gets in the way.
Fred:
Third, is there a difference between a SLO and an objective?...
Surely we need not list 353 different things that students are able to do
when they exit your Chem 1A class.
Mark: I wouldn’t, of
course, give my students the list if I didn’t think doing so would be useful
to them.
Fred:
I would think that these 353 different things all build towards things that
could in fact be articulated in a few different statements. These things
that the 353 objectives build towards are the SLOs. The objectives are your
list of 353. The SLOs are what students ought to be able to “do” with those
353 objectives.
Mark: I’ve heard this
before. It’s a sort of mantra, but I have no idea how this can be done in a
meaningful way. Do you mean that the students should be able to successfully
complete other chemistry courses?...work as an efficient chemist?...pass
standardized exams? What did you or anyone else have in mind?
Fred:
Is it useful? In my
classes the shift from “stuff” to “skills” or “doing” has been useful. Do
you already do many of these things? Probably. I think many of us already
do. It is now just a matter of explaining what we do.
Mark: You’ll get no argument from me here, but
it’s an argument for action-oriented objectives, not SLOs. That’s another of
the points of my message. Justifying learning objectives does not justify
SLOs. When you distill useful objectives down to two or three useless SLOs,
those SLOs become something different and should be justified in a different
way.
There’s no need to reply. Thanks for your
time.
Mark
From:
Alfred Hochstaedter
Sent: Monday, October 15,
2007 5:57 PM
To:
Mark Bishop; Robynn Smith
Cc:
Homer L. Bosserman; Yesenia Calderon
Subject: RE: SLOs...a good
idea rendered useless
Mark,
Thanks for your note.
Comments are always welcome, and well written comments like yours are
especially welcome. I think you presented some thoughts that many faculty
have had, but have not taken the time to articulate.
Robynn and I share many of
the concerns you do, particularly the notion that we can distill our college
courses down to two or three SLOs. We too find it insulting and belittling.
But all of us also agree that accreditation is good and that doing anything
(or not doing something) to hinder our accreditation would be a bad thing.
First,
where does the SLO movement come from and why is our accrediting agency
requiring us to write them for our courses, programs, and institution?
Since the 1980’s
governments at all levels have been under pressure to be accountable for
what they do with tax money. At our division meetings, we often wonder what
those administrators are doing and why they aren’t doing something more
useful. In other words, we want them to administrate and let us teach. We
want them to be accountable. More recently, the Bush administration, with
Margaret Spellings as the Education Secretary, has pushed for
assessment-based funding, national standardization, and claimed that the
regional peer-based accreditation agencies have not been able to hold higher
education institutions accountable for what exiting students are able to do.
Their answer has been to
federalize the accreditation process. It would be a nightmare, I’m sure.
In response, our
accrediting agency, the Accrediting Commission for Community and Junior
Colleges (ACCJC, the community college branch of WASC), has promoted SLOs as
the best way to subvert national efforts at standardization. The SLOs are a
way for each institution to decide for themselves what students that exit
courses, programs, and the institution ought to be able to “do”. It leaves
it up to the individual institution to assess how well it is accomplishing
its self-defined mission. SLOs then remain the exclusive right of the
faculty. As a result, there are no SLO “guidelines” out there. MPC needs to
decide what SLOs will mean for us. There is nobody but you to decide what
the SLOs should look like.
This information is nicely
explained in the first two articles of the September 2007 issue of the ASCCC
Rostrum. It is a short, highly worthwhile read:
http://www.asccc.org/Publications/Rostrums/Rostrum09_07.pdf
Second,
what does our accrediting agency really want and what value do we see in
this?
Our SLO Articulation
Committee, as well as our president Doug Garrison, has taken the stance that
the most important thing is the dialog. One characteristic of a vibrant
academic institution is faculty members talking to each other about
teaching. The conversation should include what it means to graduate with a
degree, what constitutes a college course, how do we know what the students
are learning. It is not emphasizing one teaching method over another. It is
emphasizing the conversation. We view SLOs as the framework to have this
conversation. It is the content and results of this conversation that will
enable us to define ourselves as an institution.
I think the other part of
the SLO initiative probably does come from the instructor community. It
emphasizes a shift from what might be called the “designed” or “taught”
curriculum to the “learned” curriculum. The following is from training
materials that WASC gives to accreditation site-visit teams:
“As team evaluators look
for evidence that the institution is evaluating student learning outcomes,
they will want to think about the
designed curriculum, the
taught curriculum, and the
learned curriculum, bearing in mind that grades are not the best
evidence of student learning. The designed curriculum is what is in the
college catalog and in official course outlines of record. The taught
curriculum can be found in the course syllabi. The learned curriculum is
what assessment is all about—what have the students learned?” SLOs describe
the learned curriculum.
It shifts the concept of
our teaching from “we’re going to cover xyz material in class today” to “the
students will do abc in class today to improve their ability to xyz”. I can
tell you that this shift has helped my teaching. In fact, I think science
teachers are leaders in this concept. After all, many of our classes are
designed around labs, which teach skills, whether they be analytical,
critical thinking, or lab skills. I do see value in this shift.
Third,
is there a difference between a SLO and an objective?
Yes, but it’s not the crux of the conversation. It is much less important
than the conversation about teaching.
I think of SLOs also as a
way to articulate to others what successful students should be able to do
when they exit our courses in concise yet useful ways. Surely we need not
list 353 different things that students are able to do when they exit your
Chem 1A class. I would think that these 353 different things all build
towards things that could in fact be articulated in a few different
statements. These things that the 353 objectives build towards are the SLOs.
The objectives are your
list of 353. The SLOs are what students ought to be able to “do” with those
353 objectives. Surely they’re related in some way.
Is it useful? In my
classes the shift from “stuff” to “skills” or “doing” has been useful. Do
you already do many of these things? Probably. I think many of us already
do. It is now just a matter of explaining what we do.
Do SLOs wind up being so
vague they’re useless? Sometimes, yes. It’s not a perfect system, but
neither is anything else.
Do SLOs encapsulate
everything our students learn in
our classes? Of course not. Many of the things we hope students learn from
our courses do not manifest for several years. I think of a pie chart that
represents all the things I hope our students gain from our classes. The
SLOs, and our tests, represent just a slice of that pie. In my Oceanography
course, for example, I hope students gain an appreciation for how scientists
investigate questions about our natural world.
Fourth,
what should we do now that we’re in this mess?
Here is where opinions may
differ. You and Robynn may suggest that we devise a plan that is as painless
as possible, whether or not it jives with the spirit of what our accrediting
agency is asking for. My take is that if we have to do something, we might
as well try to do it in good faith, make it into something as good as
possible, and reap whatever benefits may be available.
Fifth,
why should we do this again?
The strongest reason remains for accreditation. They’re asking us to do it
and we believe in this peer-reviewed system. Another reason is that SLOs
provide a framework for recording the results of teachers talking to each
other about teaching. I remain convinced that this is a hallmark of a
vibrant academic institution. Additional reasons involve the shift from the
“designed” or “taught” curriculum to the “learned” curriculum, and what
students ought to be able to “do” when they exit our courses, programs, and
institution. But the resulting usefulness of this will depend on the effort
that individual instructors put into it.
Mark, I may not have
answered your questions to your satisfaction, but I hope I have illustrated
our current thinking on this subject.
I hope you remain active
in the conversation.
-Fred
From:
Mark Bishop
Sent: Monday, October 15,
2007 10:46 AM
To: Alfred Hochstaedter; Robynn
Smith
Cc:
Homer L. Bosserman
Subject: SLOs...a good
idea rendered useless
Fred and Robynn,
I don’t know whether you
are interested in comments about SLOs at this point, but I thought I’d pass
on a more complete version of the thoughts I expressed in the last PS
division meeting.
I can’t believe how much
attention is being given to student learning outcomes (SLOs). It seems to me
that some of the best minds at MPC and across the nation are spending a huge
amount of their valuable time and energy just trying to figure out what they
are, how they might be useful, and how other folks (who, I suspect, also
don’t really know what they are and how they might be useful) can be
convinced that the guidelines for writing SLOs have been met.
I agree with the core idea
of SLOs. I’m a huge fan of learning objectives. I think that it’s important
to tell our students what we expect them to do and how we are going to test
them to see if they can do it. I also believe that the act of attempting to
come up with a list of learning objectives is useful in helping instructors
to organize their classes. For these reasons, I provide my students with a
complete list of specific learning objectives, and I assure them that I use
these objectives as a guide to writing my exams. For example, I provide my
Chemistry 1A students with a list of 353 learning objectives for the
semester. If they can meet a large percentage of these objectives, they will
do well on the exams written from these objectives.
Where I part ways with the
SLO movement is in the bizarre (and somewhat insulting) assumption that we
can distill our college courses down to two or three SLOs. Nobody has been
successful in explaining to me what an SLO is and how it differs from my
objectives in any other way than brevity, but I assume that to create SLOs
for my classes, I would try to find more general objectives that somehow
summarize the more specific objectives. Because this would, by necessity,
make the objectives more vague, I can’t imagine how this could be useful to
either my students or myself. It couldn’t possibly help students to
know how they are going to be evaluated, and it’s bound to be worthless for
helping me plan my classes.
I assume that the SLO
movement began because the core idea of learning objectives is a sound one.
I also assume that because the folks behind this movement didn’t think it
was practical to evaluate hundreds of specific learning objectives for each
course, so they decided to limit the number of SLOs to a very few…more for
bureaucratic reasons than anything else. It seems to me that the proponents
of SLOs don’t realize that this makes SLOs something different than specific
learning objectives, so they use the justifications for specific learning
objectives in their arguments for SLOs. I don’t think that’s playing fairly.
The justifications for SLOs should explain why it is useful to write two or
three very general objectives for each course, and the only justification
that I’ve heard that makes sense to me is that it’s necessary for
accreditation.
Whatever the motivations
behind the movement are, it’s clear we need to play the game and write SLOs…accreditation
is good…but please, let’s not spend any more time on this sham than
necessary. Let’s try to find out what the accreditation folks want and give
it to them. Let’s not pretend that the process is anything other than busy
work. Let’s get the best minds on campus and across the nation back to doing
useful work.
Mark
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Mark Bishop
Monterey
Peninsula College
www.preparatorychemistry.com
www.mpcfaculty.net/mark_bishop/
mbishop@mpc.edu
markbishop@preparatorychemistry.com